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More InformationIn this episode of “Dialing Out,” we unpack a decade in B2B sales with Anamarija—spanning Presales (BDR), Account Executive, and After-Sales/Project Handling. What actually moves deals forward when the pitch ends? We dive into lead hygiene, follow-ups, objection handling, and the pivots that turn shaky starts into long-term partnerships.
You’ll hear candid stories (Poland, Finland, DACH) and specific moves: how to document rigorously, when to slow down to avoid costly email mistakes, and how to reframe a strategy when early results stall.
5 min
The “big flow” career: why evolving roles in B2B sales rarely have hard boundaries
Lead hygiene as the foundation: notes, names, follow-ups, and why “warm” leads cool fast
The cost of rushing: email errors, bad personalization, and how to avoid them
Phone vs. email: why human recovery is easier live than after you hit “send”
Objection handling everywhere: preparation and product/service knowledge as your shield
Budget objections in sales calls: ROI framing vs. discounts—and when not to push
Presales vs. Sales difficulty: volume, pace, and why one is “most rewarding”
AE advantage from BDR roots: documentation discipline wins multi-stakeholder sales
“Freedom” through cold calling: confidence, improvisation, and humor that builds trust
After-sales pivots: when the initial strategy fails, change the list/industry/approach
Partnerships over end-customers: a switch that created multi-project growth
Turning dissatisfaction around: concrete steps to salvage a stalling account
Scaling with care: adding people/projects slowly to keep quality and control
The next decade: adapting fast to AI and process change
A decade across roles reveals fewer sharp transitions and more ongoing adaptation. Skills in lead hygiene and documentation compound as responsibilities grow.
Roles bleed into each other; success depends on consistent process.
Presales habits (notes, timestamps, ownership) power AE and project work.
Scaling slowly helped maintain quality as projects and people increased.
Meticulous tracking (names, calls, notes, next steps) keeps deals moving and prevents “warm” from becoming “cold.”
Follow-up discipline preserves intent; missed follow-ups waste pipeline.
Document immediately after calls; don’t trust memory.
Shareable records enable team handoffs without friction.
It’s easy to recover in a live call; email mistakes linger. Slow down where errors are irreversible.
Double-check names, facts, and personalization before sending.
Use templates—but personalize thoughtfully.
When in doubt, call first; write later.
Preparation (product, service, benefits) prevents surprises. Sales calls introduce budget/ROI friction that can take longer to resolve.
In presales, the goal is the meeting—keep it simple and move forward.
In sales, fewer leads and longer conversations raise the stakes.
Frame ROI; avoid reflexive discounting.
Cold calling builds “freedom”: less fear, more adaptability, better rapport.
Name your human moments; laughter resets tension.
Improvise within a structure; don’t script the person.
Humor builds trust without undercutting professionalism.
When early results stall, change strategy with a clear hypothesis.
Switch targets (end-customer → partner), lists, or industries.
Ask for the runway to test a new angle; then measure.
Wins included expanding teams and multi-month extensions.
Lead hygiene beats charisma—every role relies on great documentation.
Follow-ups on time keep “warm” from turning cold.
Call errors are fixable; email errors aren’t—slow down before sending.
Preparation neutralizes objections; budget needs ROI, not panic discounts.
Presales is hard—and highly rewarding—because context switches nonstop.
BDR roots make better AEs: handoffs, tracking, and team clarity.
When the plan fails, change the approach (list, ICP, motion), not just the pitch.
Confidence and humor turn friction into rapport.
“Lead hygiene is the foundation—without it, warm leads cool fast.”
“You can recover in a call; you can’t unsend a bad email.”
“When results stall, change the list or the motion—not just the wording.”
Anamarija — BD Strategist
Host: Dominka
How do I keep lead hygiene tight without slowing reps down?
Use a simple call-note checklist (Who/What/Next Step/When) right after each call, with mandatory next-activity fields. Keep fields minimal but consistent so handoffs are painless.
What’s the best first move when early results disappoint?
Propose a controlled pivot: new list or partner-first motion, with a two-week test window and clear success metrics. Communicate the hypothesis and expected indicators.
When should I push on budget objections?
Anchor on ROI and risk reduction. If a timeline or scope adjustment won’t make sense for the buyer, don’t force it—protect pipeline quality.
Is presales or sales “harder”?
Different hard: presales demands rapid context-switching at volume; sales carries higher stakes per conversation. Both depend on preparation and clean handoffs.
Dominka sits down with Josip Podrug, a real estate agent in Cochrane, Canada, to compare cold calling realities across the Atlantic—and to test a few “Hollywood assumptions” along the way.
The big promise: whether you’re selling B2B services in DACH or booking showings in Canada, the work still comes down to the same essentials—timed follow-ups, value-led nurturing, and human conversations that earn trust.
AI notetakers are now a staple in our sales stack—not because they’re flashy, but because they turn messy calls into clean, actionable next steps. In this episode of Dialing Out, Dominka and Anamarija unpack how transcripts save time, sharpen follow-ups, and build a reusable knowledge base for onboarding and hand-offs.
AI is everywhere in sales conversations—but where does it actually help, and where does the human still win? In this episode of Dialing Out, Host Dominka plays a quick “AI or Human?” game with Anamarija (BDS) to stress-test eight real situations from day-to-day B2B work: prospect research, cold emails, call scripts, FAQs, recordings, objection handling, lead scoring, and more.
And the success is guaranteed.
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